I want to be this guy so bad, he’s get his dog on an album cover, if that’s not fucking cool, I don’t know what is.
To me predestination is the single most toxic/damaging doctrine in all of Christendom. It’s the reason why some people think God is against them; I’ve heard so many times from people who grew up going to church, that God did some evil thing, such as give a loved one cancer, because they were told their whole life that God predetermined everything that has and every will happen. I try to be open minded to all religious teaching, but to me, no matter how you try to sugarcoat it, it makes God evil. And because it’s a teaching in parts of my own religion, and I feel it harms my religion, I will speak out against it, whereas I probably would talk shit on other religions because it’s none of my business. The following is an article I read and really liked. I almost lost my faith, by consider predestination might be true. So this article written by an Open Theist is so refreshing.
"According to the doctrine of double predestination, God actively works to save some people but also to damn others. The first ones will enjoy everlasting bliss in His presence while the others will suffer the eternal flames of hell.
Most Calvinists insist they just believe in single predestination, that is that God just works for saving His elects while abandoning all other people to their well-deserved fate.
In what follows, I will show through an analogy that, given Calvinist presuppositions, the difference between the two kinds of predestination is insignificant.
Let us consider a group of twenty children who are playing football besides the ocean. One girl (I can be very sexist at times) shot the ball in the wrong direction. The children are so eager to pursue the game that they disobey the order of adults not to swim in this dangerous zone and soon all are in the water. Very quickly they are carried away by a formidable tide.
Jerry Gooddeer happened to be there in his boat. He has the possibility to save all kids. Let us now consider two possibilities:
1) Jerry decides to save Mary, Lucy, John and Peter while pushing away all other children so that they cannot escape death.
2) Jerry decides to save Mary, Lucy, John and Peter while not helping the other kids reach his boat, thereby letting them drown.
Why 1) may be worse than 2), there is little doubt that no sensible person would call Jerry a loving man in the last case.
But let us now consider
2′) Jerry decides to save Mary, Lucy, John and Peter while not helping the other kids reach his boat, thereby letting them drown.
Before everything began, Jerry made it certain that the ball would escape to the children and that they would feel the irrestible desire to run and swim after it.”
I guess I stopped watching Barney before the good episodes.
wellyouknow it won’t let reply to your replies on my last post, but I actually agree with your first statement, it wasn’t a retarded thing to say, and it’s a good point.
I highly recommend believing in some form of deity. And I personally believe Jesus is the right (and literally real) choice. None of us knows 100% for sure what life is truly about, or what the point of existing is. But I know this much, I would be way more lost and hopeless than I already am if I didn’t have a faith to rest upon. I mean, my life at this point is pretty much just existing rather then actually living, it boils down to shopping on the weekends for things I don’t need, just so it feels like I actually did something with my time off; and watching Netflix after an unbearable day of work, and fishing for likes on Facebook to make me feel like people like/care about me. And yet I cannot help but feel optimistic, like God has got things for me to do any day now. And that makes life so much more livable, and keeps me hanging on, and keeps me (somewhat) positive. Let’s say I’m wrong and God’s a load of crap, so what! I would just die and have no more existence anyway, so what dose it matter if I’m wrong. It helps me make sense out this life that just seems too perplexing to be meaningless. What do I have to loose if I’m wrong? But I have everything to gain if I’m right, and even if I’m not right.